I wonder if maybe we just didn’t get the dates right? I’m struggling to think of other combinations, but it sounds like maybe the dates got through, but they didn’t work. Although maybe she didn’t try 2017 because it wouldn’t appear to have any significance to her?
Actually…that’s another question. 2016 and 2017 have a significance to us because it’s already happened. But the briefcase came from the Ackerly Green offices, right? So it could be two dates that are significant to the company, no? Perhaps something before they shuttered in 1961. Maybe we could compile a list of significant dates?
1916 - The year Meredith Grey Ackerly was born
1917 - The year Warner Green was born
1945 - The year Warner Green returned from WWII
1954 - The year Ackerly Green Publishing opened its doors
1958 - The date Sullivan Green was born
1961 - The date Ackerly Green shut down
1962 - The year James Ackerly Price was born
1977 - The year Sylvia Green died
1978 - The year Sullivan Green took control of A&L Printing, and Warner Green died
1979 - The year A&L Printing was burnt down, and Sullivan experienced something magiqal in the fire.
1981 - The year Meredith Grey Ackerly “died”
1992 - The year Deirdre was born
1994 - The year the 90s Mounties were founded
2016 - The year our current Mounties came together, and the year Sullivan Green died
2017 - The year our current Book was destroyed by the Storm
Just thought I’d throw out some possibilities. Do we want to stick with 1998 and 2017 or is it possible some other dates are the combination? (Now that I think of it, it could also be month/day, as well…)
We have no idea if she heard our specific dates.
If she did we don’t know if she tried them.
If they didn’t we don’t know if they didn’t get through to her because we didn’t push hard enough.
Or maybe they didn’t get through because they were wrong?
We don’t know if we even have access to the right answer yet.
I do feel somewhat strongly that if they could have opened the briefcase using only information they had access to they would have done so by now. But other than the year 2017, I don’t see what information they wouldn’t have access to yet.
I think that concrete, direct messaging plainly just doesn’t work. The closest we’ve come to getting anything across was when we wrote a story (about a lioness), which her subconscious took and ran with.
This is probably the best option I’ve seen offered so far if we want to try to get a set of numbers across. Or crafting a story where the “punchline” is 2017 - for example a story when a set of confusing events occur, but seem to make sense when she notices the date on a newspaper is 2017 or something.
They know that the Fragment is to do with the past and present but maybe they think they are that present and there is something in the past they need. So if we go along that line of thinking which significant event that @Revenir listed is a likely candidate? Sorry if this doesn’t much sense
She might know about 2012, I suppose. It wasn’t a common bit of trivia though.
In 1998 most people who used computers knew about y2k. Serious panic hadn’t really hit yet for another year.
Fun fact, I had a new years party on the eve of y2k. None of us “actually believed” anything bad would happen, but under duress we all admitted we had made sure our cars had full tanks of gas, we knew how to easily get our hands on a first aid kit and flashlight and most of us had more canned food on hand then normal. Fun times!
Unless someone suddenly has a breakthrough and is certain of another year, I think we should stick with 1998 and 2017 for today. My other guess for a year pair would be the years that each group started…like they’re the '94s so are we technically the '16s because that’s when we gathered…so 1994 and 2016?
I think we need to put in some quality brainstorming though, if we want to logically find other options for these numbers. But maybe first we need to be sure we can get an exact message through somehow…
17 years after two thousand
A message the mounties sent to your housin’
To show the answer to the case
That’s taken up so much of your mind’s space
They got the message 19 years before the date
Somewhere in the year ninety-eight
I’m struggling to think of other combinations, but it sounds like maybe the dates got through, but they didn’t work. Although maybe she didn’t try 2017 because it wouldn’t appear to have any significance to her?