Hey everyone, I’ve been doing some looking into 787 Moskva, and something that is mentioned is a light curve? Which definitely seems like a contender to be Moskva’s Curve? if these do manage to all link back to celestial bodies (I have no Idea how Bersimis-1 would fit, I’m just spit balling), then perhaps plotting their positions in the sky could show us something? The technical skill to do that would be way beyond me, let alone matching all the names to the appropriate Celestial bodies, but it was a thought I had.
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Alternatively. 
Could these constellations fit in somehow? I feel like two separate sets of constellations that aren’t locatable in the sky must be connected… somehow… maybe…
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I had a thought that maybe there was a frigate in Battleship, but I found a DOS game instead. I don’t know if the coordinates are real or not, but there’s a California address on there as well.
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Has anyone pitched the Corryvreckan Maelstrom just off the coast of Scotland as the swallow?
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There is a TON of great ideas in this thread. Everyone’s help is very important to solving this.
There is one theory a few of us think is very promising. The idea that these 20 clues map to some number (4? 5? 6) of physical locations in the world. Paris and St. Petersburg keep coming up, for example.
In order to follow this one train of thought to it’s (hopefully) logical conclusion I’ve started a separate thread to talk about the maps and which locations each clue could map to.
Everyone is welcome to join in! This isn’t being moved to exclude anyone, just to narrow down the focus of investigation of that one thread to one topic in the hopes of proving it right or wrong as quickly as reasonable.
Here’s the thread.
http://forum.ackerlygreen.com/t/post-fragment-12-possible-heavenly-bodies-map/1101
Keep all other great ideas coming in this thread as well!
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Well then.
It appears:
Galifanx, if you reverse it, has points sit on Liege, Paris, Madrid, the sea north of Algiers, and Vienna.
Durkonos is more of a guess, using the 3 points we have, the central one isn’t quite on but it’s close (finding the curve in the railway is hard on a modern map), the left middle point is on Vinnitsy, the right is on the lakeside by Dor, curve point is on the shore of Lyokshmozero
map2.pdn (1.3 MB)
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It’s possible that the constellations will be reversed: we may have pictures of them from the orientation of looking up at the sky. When we draw them on the map, it may be from a POV above them.
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More thinking:
Do you think its currently possible to discount any Southern Hemipshere locations (i.e Victoria, Australia) as anomalies/blips/wrong’uns as we’ve only got the one? (Seeing as the clue was Victoire as well?)
Harmony’s Discourse.
Harmony: conformity, consensus, consistency, cooperation, friendship, goodwill, kinship, ,peace, rapport, tranquility, unanimity, understanding, unity
Discourse: communication,conversation, discussion, essay, lecture, monologue, rhetoric, speech, treatise
Made me think of Geneva for some reason when looking at it from this way. Trying to think of anywhere else relevant for peace talks.
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When thought of like that, I also think of the Pnyx in Athens where they held assemblies in ancient times.
Edit: And yeah, looks like Victoria, AUS isn’t what we’re looking for. It was just an idea I had at the time that kinda fitted when we didn’t really have much else.
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Could someone possibly just fill me in on the map that is happening so I can help. I’m new, and a bit confused where all the information has come from!! It might help everyone out to look at it with virgin eyes as well <3
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Post 440 in this thread is where the list of “possible constellations” is.
It looks like they correspond to actual locations on a map that will become the constellations from Fragments 9-12 when connected.
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Thank you! It all makes sense now!
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Sure. We have a collection of 20 phrases that are somehow related to what we’re doing.
Just wanted to give you a heads up that there was a document filed along with the myth summary. I don’t know if it’s related or misfiled (I didn’t even see it in the folder yesterday.) but it’s a list labeled “possible celestial bodies.”
Ring any bells?
Dying to know what you’re working on…
Rumyantsev
Vieux Haven
Cristossangre
Wallonia’s Second
Harmony’s Discourse
The Royal Hoop
Victoire
Bersimis-1
Capucines
Player’s Frigate
Sadovaya
The Swallow
Haussmann’s Sanctuary
Obregón’s Requiem
Sallefavart
Argonauta
Moskva’s Curve
Forgotten Forest
Legorreta’s Interior
Zeus’ Meadow
At the core of it. This is basically all we know. This list of 20 names exist. Our job is to figure out what they mean, and why.
One theory is these names are tied to places somehow. For example
Haussmann’s Sanctuary (Haussmann was an arechitect who renenovated Paris)
Sallefavart ( orSalle Favart or Room of Favart might be Charles Simon Favart, a French Playwright who lived in paris).
So it’s possible Paris is one of the locations we’re looking for. What do we do with these locations? I dunno. Maybe we map them and they look like a constellation. That’d be nice. But it’s one running theory.
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Hi @EliseCeri and all the other new Mountaineers!
Not much has happened in the past few weeks since the Recap linked below. We spent some time trying to piece together the four constellations from the last four fragments without guidance and to no avail. Sometime last week, @Firefish discovered a new piece of information on an old resource, a website called The Lost Athanaeum. It was about myths regarding the four constellations, and there was a list of “20 possible celestial bodies” enclosed. We’ve been working on that list ever since. @Robert started a great Wiki-style thread, also linked below, to help us get organized.
http://forum.ackerlygreen.com/t/mountaineer-recap-the-week-of-may-28th/1049
http://forum.ackerlygreen.com/t/post-fragment-12-possible-heavenly-bodies-map/1101
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@Robert’s correct - the map is the best prevailing theory we have. We tossed around the idea of matching phrases to gates in Central Park, NY (which has featured prominently in past fragments), but that theory didn’t end up holding water. There’s another theory about mapping them to the actual sky, but before the list of the 20 phrases above, we weren’t really able to find any constellations in the sky that matched the four fragment-constellations. We’ve also looked at the background of the Mountaineer splash page, the Chronocompass emblem and even a “map of fairyland” used during a previous fragment, to no avail.
That being said, there’s probably much more uncertainly for all of us (veteran Mounties, “middle Mounties” like myself and new folks) because of the damage to the Book of Briars - none of us are sure about a possible Magimystical Assessment, or what the key will even do once we actually are able to piece it together!
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@Augustus_Octavian What about overlaying the constellations we currently have with the points we’re concrete about? I’ve read through the thread and the idea of a set of armor seems possible, so what if by mapping the constellations on the ground it leads to another clue on the Gates?
Just a newcomer’s thought. c:
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